Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. Ive heard this, believed this, and repeated this on more than one occasion. What was their relationship? " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word . Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. The article is not imposing a narrow standard that makes no room for inference or implication. He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . Their physical condition changed as a result of their eating the forbidden fruit. Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. Hi Ralph, Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . Thanks for the kind response. My post is not arguing against the idea that Adam and Eve had some sort of relationship with the Lord prior to the Fall. That is exactly how his walking with Adam and Eve in the Garden is depicted. Simply quoting Genesis 3:8 does not disprove the point of my post since that verse never says that they walked with God. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. Adam heard God making a sound (aside from speaking) that God had made before and which enabled Adam to recognise that it was the sound of God. When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. 1. Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! The activity of God in 2:18-22 give the impression of prior occasions of God walking in the garden. Yes, Adam and Eve were sinless, but this doesnt mean that Gods physical presence needed to be right where they were. I believe when the Bible states they heard the Lord in the cool of the day I think its a spiritual voice. I to am searching regarding worship in OT times and wondered about Adam walking with God. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? He never showed him self He when He was showing himself to Moses and the others He revealed himself to in some other form. These include appearances to Abraham, Hagar, Moses, Joshua (Joshua 5:13), Gideon (Judges 5:12), and the wife of Manoah (Judges 13:3). Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. John teaches that Christ the second person of the Godhead is the Creator "All things came into being through Him, and . They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. It bothered me for the day into right now where I went on the internet to find something credible and I landed here. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. The unborn child, the mentally handicapped, the elderly, and even our worst enemiesall are made in the image of God. On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. Possible the sound he heard was uncharacteristically harsh & is why he was afraid. Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. 9 And JEHO. Some scholars, such as J.J. Niehaus, have argued that the phrase translated as the cool of the day is better understood as referring a strong wind. 2. I would take them apart and look inside to see how they worked. Your email address will not be published. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. In my searching I found your website and I am so glad I did. Adam and Eve were the first human beings, from whom every other human being descends. Hi Bob, Here is a portion of what I wrote on page 72 of my book, Fallen. The idea that one could walk with God, after all, had been a possible reality only once before, in Genesis 3:8, where Adam and Eve hear "the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden." Adam and Eve were called to a radical intimacy with God, one that they forfeited through their sin, which resulted in their expulsion from Eden and . I dont really hear anyone saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden, but if I did, then Id correct that as well. What if the coats of skin were actually human skin as we have now. I do however give a lot of thought when people preach/teach as truth that which is not written but surmised by man/woman to have taken place. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. Im not sure what this has to do with whether they walked with God in the garden. With that in mind, I would disagree with you on the reason you give for why God came to the garden that day. God speaks, asking Adam where he is. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). The impression given is one of God being there in an embodied form, performing surgery on the man, building Eve and then walking her to Adam. But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. Hi Tim, In other words, human beings were made to reflect Gods gloryto show the world what God is likethrough who we are and what we do. The phrase "walked with God" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 5:22 and refers to Enoch after He was "raptured" but I understand what you're asking. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. It was perfectalmost. I dont know if I will recieve a responce or not, but it does not say that God made them skins from animals. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. Adam and Eve's "murder" was considered by Jesus to be at the "beginning," not the end, of geologic time. And they heard the sound of the Lord God, walking in the garden. Genesis 3:8 ? Hi Robert, God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. He put the Man he had just made in it. Who was Cain afraid of? Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Genesis 2 describes Adam and Eve's first homethe Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden, the terrestrial Paradise known also as the Garden of God, is one of the most famous settings in the Bible. We read that God planted a garden and placed Adam there to tend it ( Genesis 2:8, 15 ). Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. He was their friend. Again, Im not opposed to the idea at all, but the text just never says it. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. (Vs. 14) Did this wind also clothe Adam and Eve with skins from an animal that had to be killed? Like I mentioned before, I dont have a problem with the idea that they may have walked with God in the garden. Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. Hi Mel, Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. But that isnt the point of what I wrote. Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? See my article, Was Jesus Married? Even the best of our actions is imperfect. More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. No? They hide among the trees. I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. So is this one (post-Fall) verse sufficient to establish that God was in the habit of visiting with Adam and Eve in the Garden? Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). But at least enough time passed to provide people who lived in Nod and a wife for Cain. Thanks for your thoughts on this. God bless you. This is a very good example of god walking with his people and his people walking with their god .look at 25:18 where off if you shall do my statutes that is live the way I instruct you to live that is walk in harmony with god then you shall dwell in the land in saftey.pleaseeeeeee this is why your argument is so trivial I have only given one example the whole book is showing how god walks with his people and how he expects them to walk with him read 26:11 and I will set my tabernacle among you 12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT THE SCENARIO IS WHEN THEY ARE NOT WALING TOGETHER 26:14 but if you will not hearken unto me to not do my commandments( do you know that obeying the commandments is to walk with god)15 if you despise my statues or if your soul abhor my judgements so that you will not do my commandments BUT THAT YOU BREAK MY COVENANT No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. Jack ~'()~ In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. Genesis 3:8, CSB: Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and they hid from the Lord God . Thats correct, and I write about that in my book, Fallen. In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. You havent dealt with this in your explanation. Blessings! Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. Thanks for reading. Two things that they did see. 21? We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? There may have been thousands of years, who knows? I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". You say that since Gods coming is right after Adam and Eve sin, that His reason for coming is to proclaim judgment. 00:00. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Later that day, God was walking in the Garden of Eden. Hi Sam, when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? Its about urging people to take a closer look at the text so that they do not make false claims about it. Hi Tim. The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. The difficulties of translation, plus inevitable translator bias, can complicate getting a true understanding. Adam understood what God meant when he was given instructions because God made him with the ability to understand those things. The serpent Satan asked her how she was doing. Hi Nucc, I looked in Genesis, Psalms and even searched for New Testament references. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. 9 GOD made all kinds of trees grow from the ground, trees beautiful to look at and good to eat. If strong wind is a better translation, then it would not be saying that God was walking in the garden, but instated that He was moving in the garden. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. . * In The Garden * And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. Apparently, you have missed the point of this entire post. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. The first words recorded from Eve are from her encounter with the serpent. While its true they could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel, they also could have been any age from very young up to 120+. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. There were two special fruit trees in the garden: The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. Hi Warren, This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). Picture this. The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. Thats the one where I spend time talking about the ages of Cain and Abel. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. I have no problem with that. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? Do you think the lord actually cares if pastors are saying Adam and Eve did walk with God? Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? Hi Greg, They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of . God bless you. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. for details. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! "And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. Jesus is Lord God, He is the Son of God. One fine, perfect Edenic day Eve was out walking. As I mentioned near the end of the post, I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Keep up the search for accuracy. But I dont think we need to have them walking with God in the garden to show how bad sin is. Because we are made in Gods image, we are called to image God. I dont find your suggestion to be plausible. My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. If they dont walk with him no blessing no rain no food and punishment 7 times more. Im not opposed to this idea. But, despite the beauty of God's new world, there was one thing missing. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). Thank you and God bless you! If so, then it seems to follow that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. He saw them sew fig leaves together to cover themselves. There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. Its one thing to believe that Adam and Eve walked with God and to recognize that its based on some fairly reasonable assumptions. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). Maybe it is written somewhere else in other ancient writings? Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. Answer (1 of 21): The context once again gives the answer. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. I hear it on a regular basis, and many of my coworkers have said it. But again, that doesnt change my point. Song of Solomon 2:17. So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? Later after the fall of man, mankind lost the ability to see God physically save through the theophany. Adam and Eve. Hi David, 9 But the LORD God called out to the man, "Where are you?" 10 "I heard Your voice in the garden," he replied . Awesome, you as a Dad leading his children, as the word instructs. I know its there somewhere, isnt it? Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. So I will get rid of the statement being discussed here. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. Also, Adam didnt necessarily say that he heard Gods voice (some Bibles translate it that way), but it could just as accurately be translated as your sound in the garden. "Until the cool of the day. But the most beautiful thing of all was that they walked with GOD. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. Therefore while at yet there was no temptation, walking with God was natural. I dont recall what prompted it, but I do remember searching for the phrase, God walked with Adam in the cool of the day. Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. 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